Thanks Big-all - I didn't realise to 'defrost', a frost free system, you turned the stats down, but didn't unplug it. Didn't realise about the heaters, but the mesh at the back gets mighty warm.I see where you are coming from, purge the system, but without a switchoff. I hate to constantly turn off the TV or computer, if I'm in and out in the day, as that is when they are most under stress and likely to fail, and consume more current. (But the caviat being - not in standby, as that breaks the degaussing, on TV's, and NEVER leave a washing machine unattended, as that caused a fire in my youth (too young to remember), and the recent failures with my machine/and/or leaks)I recall the days when I had a half height fridge with a little letterbox sized freezer, and eventually, you could probably post a fish finger into the ice.
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Hack away with a knife, and rediscover 10 year old foodstuff, that had been forgotton over time. Yummy!ps.It's pretty full atm, so your advice will be filed for future reference.
What a wee-wee poor cut & pasted POC. You have a great chance of thrashing these morons in February and as long as you follow the legal process properly it's probable they will give up before and go back and hide under their stone without a hearing. Not certain, but likely.Even more so regarding your other thread where their case is pathetic.Their whole disgusting business model is based on theats of court action against people who then soil their underpants and pay - when someone shows they are comfortable arguing their case in front of an unbiased judge the fleecers generally run away. Again, nothing is certain, but we can make our own luck.Get loads of kip, there's nothing to worry about!.
So you've successfully defended the fleecers' claim (your letter to the court).This 23 October next step is a Witness Statement. Hi can anyone tell me what my rights are regarding a Fridge Freezer which was noisy from day one.According to the manual some noise of the refrigerant is 'normal' but the noise is meant to stop after a 'couple of weeks' once everything has 'settled down'.It hasn't! It crackles and pops like a bowl of Rice Crispies with Tourettes!It is in the kitchen but can be heard in the lounge and upstairs when we are in bed.I was willing to wait a while to see if it stopped but it is clear now it has not improved.Not sure if this is relevant but this is the second one we have had. The first one was not the same as the one in the picture on the website and the door was dented.
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I spent ages (and lots of 10p's per minute) on the phone trying to find out which model was the one in the picture. After assurances that the first one must have been old stock the second one turned up and was the same. I informed the driver this was not the one we were told we were getting and he phoned his 'office/depot' and told them as well as writing this on the delivery note we signed.Would this count as rejection of the item at delivery?If not/so what action should I take?Thanks in advancePS It is less than 6 months old. Edited October 2, 2012 by Redletterforgot to mention. Hi,Bought the same model with the same stupid noises - comet took it back and sent a new one, still making the clucking noises!Can't bare the noise - if i had open plan i would have put it out the back door!I wouldnt mind but when we ordered it the picture on the website showed a fridge freezer with silver handles. When it arrived-no handles. Spent ages on the phone and they told me i had old model and they would re-order the 'correct' one.
Then it arrives-no handles!So the delivery guy phones his depot and tells them and then wrote on the delivery note that customer said it is not the right model.So I have 2 approaches.1) Complain about noise and request new.OR2) How long would I have to send it back based on the wrong model-or has that passed? Hi wont,The question was to Red the OP, that said I think the COMET engineer needs to go back to school regarding how a FF works there is plenty movement going on inside a FF 24 hours a day.This is the Freezer part Facts,A freezer works by drawing the heat out of the freezer compartment. To start the process, the refrigerant-in gas form-goes into the compressor where the compression process causes it to get very hot. The hot gas moves through more coils and starts to cool off. This causes the gas to turn into a liquid. Gas is forced into an expansion valve while in the liquid form.
This valve has a very small opening which-when the refrigerant is forced through it-turns into a very cold mist.As the mist goes through the coils under the freezer compartment, it starts to evaporate and turn back into a gas. The temperature of the mist is around -27 degrees at this point, and it takes the heat from the freezer compartment with it.The refrigerant starts to warm up again as it draws out the heat, and it is sent back to the compressor to start the process over again. Each time the refrigerant goes through it cycle, it takes more heat from the freezer compartment until there is none left. This is what leaves you with frozen food.Thermostats and Refrigerants. The thermostat detects the temperature inside the freezer compartment and tells the compressor when to come on. This is why you will sometimes hear the freezer cycle on and off.
This is also one of the most common repairs needed on a freezer. If the thermostat doesn't work, the freezer will either keep running or not come on at all.Edited October 12, 2012 by GorgieBoy.
Hi Red,Goods - what the law saysWhen you buynew goods from a shop or a market stall, the law (principallythe Sale of Goods Act 1979 (as amended)) says they must:match their description. This means they must be as described bythe seller. This includes any description on the packaging. In mostcircumstances, it also means that they must conform to any advertisingclaims made about them;andbe of satisfactory quality. This means the goods must be fit for theirpurpose and meet the standards that any reasonable person wouldexpect.
Hi Red,Goods - what the law saysWhen you buynew goods from a shop or a market stall, the law (principallythe Sale of Goods Act 1979 (as amended)) says they must:match their description. This means they must be as described bythe seller. This includes any description on the packaging. In mostcircumstances, it also means that they must conform to any advertisingclaims made about them;andbe of satisfactory quality. This means the goods must be fit for theirpurpose and meet the standards that any reasonable person wouldexpect. I maybe a bit late joining in this conversation but I also bought the FUFL1810P from Laskys (an internet arm of Comet). Same story, the annoying clucking noise.
I contacted Indesit (who make Hotpoint now) and asked them if it was normal as I had never owned a frost free fridge before and had been warned that frost free fridges can be noisy. They offered to send an engineer but warned me as I didn't take out the extended warranty, if there was no fault then they would charge a call out fee of £50. The girl on the line couldn't tell me if it was normal or not.
I had second thoughts and called them again and this time the guy seemed to know a lot more about the workings of that fridge and explained that with frost free freezers (at least these Hotpoint models) the fridge is cooled by drawing air from the freezer and there are relays and solenoids that switch in and out to let the cold air into the fridge through the holes at the back of the fridge. I concluded from this that it is highly likely that the noise I am hearing is 'normal' and cancelled the visit of the Engineer as I didn't want to be hit for £50.The damn thing is still clucking but seems to be working OK. The guy at Indesit said' Like all noises that surround you, and I live near a railway track, you get used to it and after a while you don't notice it' Well I haven't got used to it yet!As for the model you ordered having handles, I know what you mean as the illustration on Comet's web site showed the wrong model. The FUFL1810P doesn't have handles.
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I went into a Comet shop to check that before I ordered on line because I didn't want handles. The picture for the FUFL1810P on their website was not of the FUFL1810P.Anyway I guess you are stuck with it now since the demise of Comet but you have the comfort of knowing that you are not alone having to listen to regular clucking from your Fridge/Freezer as I suspect that is normal operating noise for this model and maybe other frost free freezers but I haven't been told that by a professional who really knows. Luckily for me this clucking noise comes and goes and is by no means constant (It is still annoying but I guess I am also 'getting used to it') but as you say when it does come on it can last for up to an hour. I wonder on what grounds you can get the ff replaced, you cannot argue it is not fit for purpose (because it works OK) They claim the noise level of the unit (FUFL1810P) is 44db. I guess if you can prove that it is louder than that you can claim that it doesn't perform to the advertised spec but how do you prove that because it doesn't say where that noise level is measured (is it directly in front or behind the fridge or 10 meters away?). However there should be more knowledgable consumers experts on this forum than me.Certainly, when I was looking around prior to my purchase I was told by a shop salesman that frost free freezers are noisy, he said he had one and wish he had never bought it. OK he was trying to sell me a 'low frost' fridge/freezer but it also wasn't a Hotpoint.
I haven't been able to research whether ALL frost free fridge freezers are noisy ( and is therefore something that has to be accepted if you want a frost free freezer) or whether it is only Hotpoint models. If all frost free models are noisy (or even just Hotpoints) and it wasn't pointed out to you by the Currys salesman then you may have a case to pursue that route as dissatisfaction or unsuitability.It'll be interesting to know if as a consumer there is real case for complaint however I doubt the rest of us on this forum have a path to complain as the retailer (to whom we must initially direct our dissatisfaction) no longer exists.
Hi again.I have phoned BBC 3CR consumer show and they seem to be interested in following this up again. Pdf surat yasin dalam bentuk buku en. Re some of the points you made. I was not told by the salesman that this FF would be noisy.
Is it likely that the average sales assistant would know that this particular model of FF made an unacceptable noise and if so, tell the customer? Our daughter has a Frost Free freezer/fridge unit and it doesn't make a noise. I cannot remember the make BUT it isn't a Hotpoint.Although I hear what you are saying about 'it does the job.
Etc' thus I cannot reject it on grounds of not 'being suitable for the purpose', surely if something is causing so much annoyance, not just to me BUT plenty of others. Someone said he was that close to throwing it out, I know the feeling!!!. The consumer must have some recourse. BAD DESIGN MUST NOT BE EXCUSED! What happend to QA. Too expensive I guess!I will keep trying and let you all know if I have any success BUT don't hold your breadth!
I don't want to rain on your parade but I called my cousin who bought a Bosch frost free fridge freezer recently and she tells me that hers also makes the same clucking sounds (she's heard mine). I don't want to harp on but I do suspect that all (or certainly most) frost free fridge freezers that have been designed and made in recent years probably make the same sounds. It would certainly be worth while doing a bit more research along these lines as all of us in this thread have purchased a frost free fridge freezer for the first time and perhaps should have known that frost free freezers cluck loudly. (although I don't know how if we've had no previous experience and we wouldn't think to ask). After all we wouldn't buy a petrol lawn mower expecting it to be silent would we?No I doubt that the 'average shop assistant' would know what a frost free fridge freezer sounds like unless they had one themselves and then may not think to tell a prospective customer but that may not be an excuse as far as consumer rights goes. Hi there we have a Hotpoint FUFL 1810G and we have the same unbearable clicking/clucking noises and it's driving me insane, I just want to smash it to bits, I got it in January and it's a great looking fridge and does the job but I cannot handle the noise.
A few weeks ago the thing started a whole new noise which my husband recorded and sent to Hotpoints facebook page, they soon sent an engineer straight out who replaced a seal and said that it was due to a build up of ice, didn't solve the clicking noise, I can't put up with it much longer but is it worth complaining to Currys or Hotpoint or am I wasting my time?
Why does the freezer make a cracking noise?Symptom1. The freezer makes a cracking noise.Cause1. A cracking noise can be heard when the parts of the freezer expand or contract due to the temperature changes.2. The heater melts the frost that has formed on cooler every 7 hours.The metallic material and ice expand and contract as the temperaturefluctuates, causing cracking noises.3. Please be assured that it is a sign of normal operation.How to fix1. A cracking noise from the freezer is a sign of normal operation.2.
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The researchers placed vibration (a), acoustic (p) and temperature (T) sensors around a fridge shown aboveDr Koruk said: 'The contraction and expansion due to rapid temperature changes create thermal stresses in the materials and eventually these burst type sounds occur.' He said the vibrations created by the cracking noises were highest in the plastic heater panel that sits beside the heater.He added: 'The heater causes the temperature of the heater panel to increase very rapidly at the beginning of the defrost process and its temperature decreases when also the defrost process is completed and the refrigerator starts to cool itself.' Due to the rapid temperature changes, contraction and expansion create thermal stresses in the materials.'
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